Feb 1, 2022
Joe and Amy talk with Kevin F., who got clean from heroin 11
years ago by taking ibogaine. After a few years in traditional 12
step groups, feeling alienated by his ibogaine experience and
continued interest in psychedelics, he formed “Psychedelics in
Recovery”, a growing 12 step fellowship composed of people
utilizing psychedelics as a recovery integration tool. We ask
him if psychedelics and 12 step really can co-exist, what his group
considers “sobriety” and why people gloss over Bill Wilson’s own
use of psychedelics. Visit our sponsor for 20% off Clean Cause